September 29, 2004

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So I'll admit to being a bit dissapointed in the lack of reaction to my last post. I figured at least someone would be like "hey, that's a crazy thing that kid-dude wrote, eh?" But no.

But that's OK, I'm very much used to no one saying anything, cause that's what I do in class.

So the last few days have been quite frustrating, trying to get a wireless thing to work, but it doesn't, etc etc. And it's raining again. So it's a little not so cool.

At work, I've been a-playing Zork. It's pretty hard for a game that's like 100K. There's one part where there's this "maze", and so I've been mapping it out on paper. No one cares, they think I'm doing work. Or really, they just don't pay any attention. I don't think I could really get away with playing some straight up games like tyrian or something though.

So yeah, Zork is pretty awesome. It's cool because a lot of things in it are still like way in the back of my head from watching Danny Kinnecom play it on an apple IIe back like... jeez, a really, really long time ago, probably 16 or 17 years ago. That's crazy. I remember it being kindof scary back then. It isn't really now though. I think what was kindof scary was that one, there were grues and stuff, sure... but mostly I think it was the impression that this game was completely limitless, there were no walls or boundaries, that it was basically an entire world full of monsters and stuff, if you ever managed to get anywhere in it. I mean, it was in green text on an apple IIe, in some corner room of their house... it was some indeterminate number of disks (actually, probably one, but I didn't know that). Other games, like say pac man, most atari games, etc, had pretty clear rules. In pac man, you've got one screen. You move around in that screen, and eventually beat the level. Then you get to the next level, which is really exactly the same as the last one. So yeah it's 'infinite' in that way, but even at like 4 years old I could tell that it was a pretty constrained, limited game. Same with, say, space invaders, combat, pinball, most other games.
There were some atari games that seemed a lot more mysterious. Pitfall was a sortof borderline case. Yes, I suppose it has multiple "screens", but every screen is pretty much exactly the same, just with a lake or rope or something. Still, this slight variety gave enough of an illusion of depth to the game. I still distinctly remember discussing the game in kindergarden, and one kid, Pat, said that his brother had gotten really far, and that there's gold, but then there's purple gold, and if you get *really* far, then cops drop out of the trees and chase after you. This isn't really the case, but we all believed it. There was no real way to disprove it either, cause none of us were *good enough* at these video games to really get too far.

Then there was that like fireworld or whatever. I never had that game, some kid named gareth, who I remember was about 8 at the time, which I thought was extremely old (so I must have been much younger) had it. Completely inscrutable. No clue what was going on, the limits of the game, etc.
Pete got that game much later in high school, and it was still totally trippy and didn't make any sense.

Solaris was probably the most mysterious though. I had solaris, and I would play it all the time, and never figure any of it out. You could move around in space, kindof, and get to planets, and rescue people on the planets... and refuel... but you could also blow up the planets, if you shot the thing that you refuelled at. Then there was some cryptic map screen, and sometimes it would change colors, like red, or flash or something, and when that happened usually the game was almost over and I died.

But who knows what the object of the game was, or if there even was one.

But these days, I know way too much. Solaris is probably all of 32K or so. Zork is 92,160 bytes. I guess that's the whole like, tree of knowledge thing for ya, huh? Clever as I may have been at age 6, I just didn't grasp the limits of these games.

I can't really imagine what it must be like to be little and play today's videogames. I mean if I thought Zork was immersive and cool, then ... hmm... but then again, the whole "adventure game" is kindof a thing of the past. Most games now are pretty well defined in their boundaries. Adventure games like Zork, King's Quest, etc, sortof mutated and de-volved into Myst and that kind of thing, then died out. I wonder if the increasing technology, with accompanying levels of realism and production values, sortof nessecitated that. Cause I guess "Myst" is the obvious answer if you want to do Zork in the 90s (or heck, didn't I get some "return to zork" lame "MPC" "interactive movie" kind of thing??), and it's totally lame. I mean you can't stick to text if everyone else is doing the EGA then VGA thing. Just wouldn't be commercially viable. And once you've got graphics, I guess the temptation is very great to make the input graphical as well, which basically kills it, since that basically boils down to clicking on a bunch of stuff.

Yeah the text parser is definetly what gives a huge illusion of depth to the game, especially if you're still under 4' tall. Cause you can type ANYTHING. Granted, it won't understand most things you type, but ... ah, see even that term, "understand"! As if there's some entity involved somewhere that "understands" what you mean when you type "tie rope to railing". But still, there it is. You interact with Zork the same way you interact with people (well on the computer) -- you type to it. There's no method of human communication based on clicking on things though. So put that in your head & think it.

Ah, such weighty matters. All should weigh in on such important discussions. Especially Pete, cause he wrote an essay about Zelda for his final paper in some class, and got an A. Dude, that's like, the best grade you can get, man. Whoa!

Anyway I'm gonna head out pretty soon, and it's still raining, which calls into question my plans to get to ginza and buy a tripod. Nn.

Posted by tadge at September 29, 2004 10:29 PM
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Hey tadge,

I don't think you have to worry about said kid's writing. He is just innocently throwing in words he's heard. I see kids say wierd shit all the time.

keep it real brohanis

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Posted by: dan at September 30, 2004 12:09 AM

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dude, matt and i spent like an hour listening to tunes from final fantasy 2 last night while getting blitzed. it was serious nostalgia.

zork DEFINITELY seems bigger and scarier than games that followed. and one thing that's cool is that when they were making it, it was just on some collosal mainframe and they just would add things and then people would log in and play it, and if people started getting close to the edges of the world they would just add more stuff. so for a while it really was infinite in a way. which is awesome.

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Posted by: pete at September 30, 2004 01:15 PM

yeah dude... videogames are beast. nobody can deny it. i was just looking up that urban legend about the 5 million atari E.T. cartridges being buried in the desert, and it's tRUE. weird.

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